The Verge’s Decoder podcast features an interview with Mark Gurman, Bloomberg’s chief Apple correspondent and host of the upcoming Power On podcast. The conversation follows Apple’s annual iPhone hardware event, which marked the first major product launch by new CEO John Ternus, who took over from Tim Cook less than two weeks earlier. The event also introduced the iPhone Duo, described as Apple’s first foldable smartphone.

The interview examines the leadership transition, internal reorganization at Apple, and how those changes may affect the company’s culture. Gurman and the host discuss what the event’s timing and messaging suggest about Ternus’s plans to guide Apple from what they characterize as the iPhone era into the AI era.

Why it matters

A change in Apple’s chief executive and the launch of a new foldable product line arrive as the company positions itself around AI, according to the discussion. The framing suggests the transition could shape Apple’s product and organizational direction.